After briefly arguing about Andre Drummond's value to the Lakers (0:00-18:40), hosts Harrison Faigen and Anthony Irwin threw to a more interesting conversation they recorded earlier in the day with South Bay Lakers head coach and former Laker Coby Karl (19:09-58:42), who is hosting a new podcast called “The Curious Leader with Coby Karl,” featuring guests like legendary Lakers coach Phil Jackson, team governor Jeanie Buss, current player Jared Dudley, and a whole lot more.